hmmmm
none of the links work for me!
help!!!!!
oz
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ghnjmmoymjw/dctalk48.pdf.
just uploaded page 2...not 1 or 3 as they are of no interest.. this talk is only given by gb members or branch committee members.
enjoy.
hmmmm
none of the links work for me!
help!!!!!
oz
now that i am free from my bonds to an organization dictating to me what i can and cannot do (in bed included), i cannot stop.....i feel like an addict on coke or something, i have been with my bf for eight months now, and perhaps it is a combination of the newness of a sexual relationship with the release from my spiritual bonds, but....i feel like a cat in heat 24/7.
of course my bf is not complaining even though i see he is physically tired parts of the day that i actually leave him alone (to go to work or sleep after hours of lovemaking).
i wonder if anyone else has gone through similar experience.
Coffee girl... thankyou.
One huge difference in me now is that i know who i am at last, and have a better grasp on how relationships work or 'should' work than i did 20 years ago. My wife never really dated men her own age too as she found them to be imature boys (now she just has an imature man!)
Despite the age gap we are equals, i find no need or desire to 'father her' either. 90% of the time we and our friends and family dont even think of the gap.
There are times when it does, like planning for the future etc. But at the stage you and mr coffee are at, forget the future! I do tease her about having to wipe my bum for me when i'm senile!
all the best
oz
ps. feel free to pm if you ever want to compare notes...
after my mom died, my aunts and i were going through her personal belongings for my dad.
late that night, in one of the last boxes we went through, i found a mother's day card that i had made for her when i was in first grade.
even though mother's day was a forbidden holiday, she kept that card for all those years.. i wonder, in spite of their surface indifference, how many jw mothers wish that they could participate in mothers day, at best, or resent it, at worst?.
On sunday while taking my dauhter home to her JW mother, we stopped at a country antique store for a bit of a break (its a 2 hour drive).
Walking around the shop she commented to my wife how something she saw would be good for mothers day...
my ears pricked up and i asked what it was, and does she 'do' mothers day? YES.
Do you wish mum happy mothers day? YES
Is your mum ok with that? YES
well knock me down and pick me up! I cant figure the evil one out. She also took our daughter to the movies for her birthday once as well.
oz
wendy cloete louwwe lost a sister in our congregation today, had severe depression and tried to take her own life.
sad thing is if the doctors stopped being petty and insisting on bloody and just gave her alternative blood volumiser sooner she might have been fine.
it took the elders hours to get her transferred to a new hospital.
Incredible is it not? 10 years ago it would have only made the local news page 3.
Now, its global in minutes!
oz
theme was something about "loyalty to jehovah's visible organization".. i have neither the time nor inclination to summarize the whole thing, but a few points stood out:.
even if it causes you personal hardship.
example: joshua & caleb returned from spy trip to promised land with good report, but were "outvoted" by the other 10 spies.
somebody please smuggle a tape recorder into a c/o visit and tape this stuff!
oz
is the governing body haunted by the thought that jehovah is telling them no and shut down?.
rutherford is reported to have sought cash and rationed coal as a test of jehovah's will.
knorr reported on getting an unexpected windfall of cash when they sought to buy the towers hotel.. but from where i sit, jehovah seems to have become very ungenerous towards these would-be theocrats, in recent years.. they dumped subscriptions.. they cut literature.. they went to paperbacks.. they cut magazines, by my count, for the third time.. they laid off bethelites.. they sold off brooklyn buildings.. they sold off printing/binding equipment.. so, now their latest 'litmus test' of jehovah's will is to simply dump the magazines in one lump and tell people to only take what they need.
I always beleived that when the work was done we would all just sit back and wait.
i guess if they pulled that one they would have to find some other way to keep them all busy.
oz
now that i am free from my bonds to an organization dictating to me what i can and cannot do (in bed included), i cannot stop.....i feel like an addict on coke or something, i have been with my bf for eight months now, and perhaps it is a combination of the newness of a sexual relationship with the release from my spiritual bonds, but....i feel like a cat in heat 24/7.
of course my bf is not complaining even though i see he is physically tired parts of the day that i actually leave him alone (to go to work or sleep after hours of lovemaking).
i wonder if anyone else has gone through similar experience.
Hey Coffee House Girl, didn't you mention that your BF was like 20 years older than you? So are you saying sex with older men is the bomb How is that relationship working out, him being older, just curious. For the record I think it's fantastic, just thought you might share more info on it
coffee house girl
as this has turned into a bit of a discussion on age gaps and libido i'll weigh in my bit!:
When i started to live again sexually The first experience (two years after leaving wife) freaked me out because it ended my marriage, but after that... well, my old boss used to introduce me as......... he'll root a rolling donut! NOT true. I waited for them to stop first.
Girlfriend number one was a true sexual awakening i must say. Girlfriend number two just didn't compare i am sad to say.
Girlfriend number 3 was 17 years my junior. Blew my mind in bed. Blew my mind in life too. I married her two years ago. I am 47, she 30. I dont think age has anything to do with how well we get on as a couple. Both of us never ever thought we would meet somebody so right. Now, at first we went at it like rabbits. Now though, we go at it like rabbits, just maybe not twice a day. well sometimes there might be a few days break in between but still the cuddles and affection are displayed with each other anyway.
It will slow down a bit but if you and your man stay connected with each other then the love and passion should remain too, thats what i believe anyway.
And please people! Dont think i'm bragging ok?
lol
oz
EDIT: having been sharing this thread with my wife i must add her perspective!
She says i am a raving horn bag because i have a younger 'thing'. She thinks older men feel more vital and verile with a younger partner. I do tend to agree some i guess. Her libido lifts mine i must admit.
So... if ya like it do it! If ya like it lots, do it lots!
they are zombies you know.
they are not thinking for themselves.
they let the governing body think for them.
I jumped in here pretty fast after 12 years of being an apologist and learnt them all in one big whack on the back of the head!
In some sort of order though:
1. Child custody booklet
2. Mexico/ Malawi
3. U.N
4. C.O.C
then my head spun for quite some time...
oz
a while ago, on here i think, i came across a quote from the oct 8 1966 awake!.
we are nearing the end of the first six thousand years of mans existence.. if the date of the creation of man (4026 b.c) is also the date of the beginning.
of the seventh creative day or sabbath, it is therefore calculated that the end of the first 6,000 years of this 7,000-year-long day will take place in the year 1975. since the last thousand years of this seventh day are to be occupied entirely by the millennial reign of christ, it follows that the year 1975 will witness the battle of armageddon and the ushering in of the long awaited new world under the king jesus christ.. i have searched through pdf scans of 1966 and in fact all 1960s issues looking for this.
Thanks Chris... will go looking for the whole book.
i find it a little disturbing if the writer is claiming to quote Awake! but actually putting words in its mouth so to speak... But perhaps he is paraphrasing the ideas in his own words and reasoning... and that got picked up as a 'quote'
mythbuster, yes thankyou, yhese were the ones i searched.
oz
under watchtower doctrine, during the 1960s and 1970s witnesses in the african nation of malawi suffered terrible crimes against them for refusing to purchase malawi congress party cards.
how many participants here have ever viewed a malawi congress party card both inside and outside?.
marvin shilmer.
TOH, maybe so,
BUT the issue for most ex JWs is not what the card represented but that at the same time as witnesses were dying over this, the WTBS was supporting the bribing of mexican officials in relation to military service.
The fact is that even after bribing etc etc, it made the recipient of the mexican paperwork A MEMBER OF THE ARMY RESERVES. If that is not unity, discipline and loyalty to a political regime, then nothing is.
Hairs can be split all day on the finer points of the types of rulerships, definitions of terms, force or voluntatry actions but as far as i am concerned the WBTS was wrong.
Either the rule applied to both countries or neither. The WBTS only motivation was to keep its property holdings in mexico. Malawi obviously had nothing to protect.
oz